from Planetshakers Insider

[[ Note AOG and ACC (Australian Christian Churches) are interchangeable.]]

ACC /AOG focus not on Jesus

Received an email from someone whose identity I promised I wouldn’t reveal, due to the sensitive nature of their position in the church.

I received permission to publish some parts of the email, and wanted to share it with you in a way this person couldn’t themselves.

When the news started breaking last week, my reaction was total disbelief at first. How could such a situation have slipped under the radar? How could so many of the “best and brightest” lights of the ACC movement have gotten caught up in something so awful and so outrageous?

Well, I agree with your question on the blog … Is Church Culture To Blame? … and the answer to that, after much reflection, is a YES. But its much bigger than being a Planetshakers issue. The ACC itself exhibits some characteristics which are unhealthy, some of which you have already documented, such as:

– a “cult of personality” revolving around leaders of big churches
– a “don’t question the leadership or our direction” attitude
– treating all criticism as negativity, and thereby dismissing it
– focus gradually moving from content to presentation style
– a complete obsession with numbers (i.e. how many people, how many churches)

The “don’t talk” rule which is in operation, which prevents healthy questioning and criticism from coming to the fore, would have prevented anyone with a question or critcism of the Mike G scenario from coming forward. Nobody would have listened, and would have dismissed the questioner as being negative, pulling down God’s annointed leadership, etc etc.

Healthy critical analysis is essential to preventing us from slipping into error, or falling into a trap. Without it, we are accountable to nobody and are therefore prone to error.

WHAT TO DO?

Our National Executive need to take a step back from the particulars of this situation and have a look at our culture. In particular, they need to consider whether the pendulum of “leadership” has swung too far and needs some correction. Such change can only come from the top. So I pray that they will have both wisdom and courage enough to confront ACC culture and take corrective action where it is needed.

If we think the problem (Mike G) is the problem, we’re wrong … its a symptom and a warning shot across our bows.

There is one answer, and one answer only: Jesus!

Any time our focus is drawn away from him and on to “the church” or “numbers” or “leadership” or “worship” or “building the kingdom” or whatever, then we’re missing the point. Our focus is Jesus, and everything else stems from that personal relationship we have with him.

Final Note: As I’m pressing “Publish” on this, I’m thinking about Planetshakers being the fastest growing AOG church in history. Perhaps God chose Planetshakers to stumble in order to highlight the problem with focussing on the numbers, and not focussing on Jesus.

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News from our Richmond AOG Spies

Richmond AOG is in Richmond in inner mELBOURNE. iT IS A MegaChurch . they see HILLSONG as Daddy and play DVDS ad nauseam in the foyer and cafe. Senior Pastor is DAVID DOERY (wife Sally).

On the weekend of 23-24 August, RAOG was preparing for the inaugural BREAKTHROUGH, a 21-day optional Fast to start September 1. David made two shock announcements to his flock. Both were speedy departures – guillotinings. As Richmond very rarely deviates from the formula, this was exciting in itself!! There was further opportunity to hear from the Senior Pastor after the main Services. 

 1     Youth Pastor David MOLYNEUX

David ‘Moly’ had been told to pack his bags. The last time people would see him would be on the Wednesday at IGNITE Youth. Only 4 days !! Unceremoniously quick exit !! The CEO told his flock that DM (wife Emily) had bought a house in Lilydale, outer Melbourne. This would be too far to travel to the office, the congregations were told. DM had been a well-liked Speaker and encourager, and had managed well a tendency to stutter. But RAOG is definitely NOT a democracy, so it doesn’t matter what the individual/group likes. Besides there’s Jesse Winchester (wife Amanda), a transfer from Hillsong, waiting in the wings. Did his sacking have anything to do with the coming shock? Love to be a fly on the wall …

2    AOG / ACC  National Youth Guru Pastor Michael GUGLIELMUCCI

Whatever you do, PROTECT THE BRANDS!  There’s no place for freedom of speech in AOG/ACC circles.  Nevertheless, we are able to point out that Michael Guglielmucci’s fingerprints are all over the incestuous AOG hemisphere.  The Senior P’s news was this: Michael had fallen out of the sky but please do remember that Michael is  <U>ONLY ONE MAN.</U>  The majority of aircraft is fine, so we don’t need to worry about the odd hiccup.  (i’m sure QANTAS is delighted RAOG rationalises its recent oxygen (O2) cylinder explosion, steep descent and useless O2 masks)  Michael had even forged medical records to maintain his elaborate hoax.  Pastor Michael kept everything hidden – even from his wife and parents.  This included a liking for Naughty Pictures, which lasted 16 years.   The man had gone back home to Adelaide for counselling.  (You think he needs counselling? What about all those who sung their hearts out to his emotional pathos/gimmickry.)  Thus spake Senior Pastor David Doery (in between international trips). Your Pastors know what’s best for you.  Now please close the bookand return to creche.

 

It’s all interesting of course but doesn’t say much for the freedom inside AOG walls!!!!  Austalians show a remarkeable tendency for forgiveness. Or stupidity!

 After a rap on the knuckles, we again made heroes out of radio ‘stars’ John Laws, Alan Jones (who says he’s now got cancer), Bruce Mansfield & Rex Hunt. Also cricketer/womaniser Shane Warne.  After Guglielmucci, one wonders how often famous people use the ‘Cancer’ tag for public sympathy.  Should we just accept whatever famous people say (a la Guglielmucci) or make our suspicions public???  Are Australian entertainers such as Kylie Minogue & Delta Goodrem taboo subjects???

It’s not possible to dabble in a secret world of Naughty Pics for 16 years without those who live with you knowing.  Michael should not have been appointed a Church leader of any desription while obsessed with such images.  The latest is that Michael has sent an email to Churches – gee, thanks Mate! – altering his Naughty Pics to those not involving minors.  Obviously a legally-recommended move as he was working so closely with  been dabbling in Naughty Pictures for a decade and a half.  We wouldn’t want to think he was exploiting minors at Planetshakers.   Whatever, if we believe his claims – and how can we believe anything from his distorted mind – then his parents and wife – at the very least – went along with his double life.

Also,  any naughty obsession doesn’t lessen the fact.   MICHAEL G IS one helluva fraud!!! 

Isn’t it strange that the small groups meeting mid-week at HILLSONG, RAOG and Edge are all called CONNECT GROUPS. What happened to individuality???

“God told me to do it”

Blogs on Conmen Florida Outpouring Todd Bentley and  Michael Guglielmucci:

Lakeland Florida (‘Florida Outpouring’) July 2008

 

Todd Bentley is from Canada and tattooed and overweight. One wouldn’t want to meet him in a dark alley let alone a stage.  He is known to heal people by kicking them in the face!!!  He started FRESH FIRE MINISTRIES way down in Florida, USA.  He IS the Florida Outpouring.

These are recent announcements from Fresh Fire.  Leaders, as in the case of Guglielmucci and AOG/ACC, must have been blind and deaf not to know of the ‘affair’.

August 12 statement:

Todd and (wife) Shonnah Bentley are presently experiencing significant friction in their relationship and are currently separated. We want to affirm that there has been no sexual immorality on the part of either Todd or Shonnah, nor has there ever been.

August 15 Statement:

We wish to acknowledge, however, that since our last statement from the Fresh Fire Board of Directors, we have discovered new information revealing that Todd Bentley has entered into an unhealthy relationship on an emotional level with a female member of his staff. In light of this new information and in consultation with his leaders and advisors, Todd Bentley has agreed to step down from his position on the Board of Directors and to refrain from all public ministry for a season to receive counsel in his personal life.

<Full statements at ===>  http://realchristianity.wordpress.com/2008/08/17/todd-bentley-commits-adultery/ >

 

ABC news item on Bentley http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5345018

http://video.google.com.au/videosearch?hl=en&vt=lf&q=Todd+Bentley#   Video Selections of Bentley

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=956102707243115502&ei=54C3SN7kIYjyqwPtwuzADA&q=Todd+Bentley&vt=lf&hl=en  Assault by Todd Bentley

http://video.google.com.au/videosearch?hl=en&vt=lf&q=Todd+Bentley#hl=en&q=bill%20johnson%20and%20todd%20bentley&src=3   Association with famed Pentecostal Healer Bill Johnson

http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2008/07/10/todd-bentleys-interview-on-abc-nightline/

http://rangescc.org/2008/08/26/response-to-leaders-who-fail/  Writing on Bentley / Guglielmucci

www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSXH7oXFCQI  Todd Bentley leaves Lakeland Church (video)

 

 

http://rangescc.org/2008/06/11/lakeland-florida-and-todd-bently/ 

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=4581180191750018437&ei=xX63SOnaEqCCqgPNxpisDA&vt=lf&hl=en  Todd Bentley “After the Heart of God” (video)

Bill Johnson supports Todd Bentley  http://r180.com/blog/blog/2008/08/17/todd-bentley-bill-johnson-support-video/

The 12 Lies of Michael Guglielmucci – Is Church Culture To Blame?  ( Planetshakers Insider )

 

On the Revivals, eg Toronto Blessing,  Benny Hinn, see long videos The Signs and Wonders Movement Expo$ed

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