Bill comments on “Guglielmucci Youth Pastor at CLC Perth”

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If Planetshakers is a hedonistic mammon house like Brian Houston’s Hillsong empire, then the following critique may be helpful.
Hillsong church claims to represent Christianity.
Any Christian who decides that any of their practices or teachings contradict the Bible is OBLIGATED to state an objection, as otherwise they are being negligent to the Biblical command to be a WITNESS OF THE TRUTH.
Any displeased non Christian can also raise objections, but they should use the Bible as the basis of their complaint, as Hillsong may ignore criticism from “unbelievers”.
The Bible is the authority of Christianity, not church leaders. The Bible should be used to support critique of frauds.
The Bible can be searched online eg.
Hillsong can easily be challenged by verses from search words like money, riches, greed, covet, immorality, etc.
There is also a good repository of authentic documentation concerning the truth behind the facades of Hillsong at (use their search facility with words “Hillsong” and “Brian Houston”).
Obviously, criticising church systems interferes with unity, but unity is worthless unless it is with truth.
The Bible encourages discernment against falsehood, as otherwise Christians would be forced to unify with corruption when it infiltrated the church.
1 Thes 5:21-22 Test everything. Hold on to the good. Avoid every kind of evil.
Here is my critique.
At Hillsong, salvation is indirectly offered for sale through participation in a church business system supervised by business managers called pastors.
Brian Houston is following and promoting a FALSE CHRIST of hedonism (worldly indulgence).
Good things in extreme, or in the wrong situation, become evil.
1 Tim 6:10 NIV “For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.”
Brian Houston runs a gigantic church business system using a marketing ploy that appears as “Come to church, we’ve got party music, attractive girls, and money everywhere”.
Hebrews 13:5 Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, “Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you.”
1 Thes 4:3-5 It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control his own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know God
In contrast, Brian Houston wrote a book “You need more money” and his wife Bobby “Kingdom women love sex”.
This is the seduction and worship of a false Christ who might be named “Mammon Jesus”.
Jesus Christ warned about false Christs (eg. Matt 24:24), so they can be named appropriately when they turn up.
Any unbiblical teaching about who Jesus Christ is, or what he wants us to do, creates a false Christ for people to follow.
Hillsong is built on the same premise as the Roman Catholic church institution, and others like it, that contradict the Bible:
The authority of men instead of the authority of the Bible.
The fear of men, instead of the fear of the Lord.
Prov 29:25 Fear of man will prove to be a SNARE, but whoever trusts in the LORD is KEPT SAFE.
Prov 14:26-27 He who fears the LORD has a secure fortress, and for his children it will be a refuge. The fear of the LORD is a fountain of life, turning a man from the snares of death.
Where does the Hillsong money come from?
In this foul institution, faith blessing is PURCHASED WITH MONEY – no coins, only “the folding”, and credit cards.
This is a contradiction of the Bible and a manipulation of people, with potential for tremendous social harm.
In addition to the “faith money” there is all the merchandise – clothing, CD’s, DVD’s, books, seminars, etc. as well as income from all entities that Hillsong controls.
These are all tax free where they are registered under “not for profit” status.
It would also be worth knowing if they are siphoning off any government funds via social projects they create through their church entities.
The large Hillsong churches may be nothing more than entertainment factories that promote materialism to distract Christians from what they should be doing.
Luke 4:5-7 shows the Devil offering Jesus Christ worldly kingdoms in exchange for worship: “The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendor, for it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. So if you worship me, it will all be yours.”
Hillsong must be partnering with the Devil through their love of money and the building of worldly kingdoms.
Jesus Christ kicked the money enterprises out of the temple “Take these things away! Do not make My Father’s house a house of merchandise!” (John 2:16 NKJV)
Matthew 6:24 NIV “No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.”
Christians should discern and reject fraudulent church ministries:
2 Cor 11:13-15 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.
Their end will be what their actions deserve!
1 Tim 6:11 But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness.

News from our Richmond AOG Spies

Richmond AOG is in Richmond in inner mELBOURNE. iT IS A MegaChurch . they see HILLSONG as Daddy and play DVDS ad nauseam in the foyer and cafe. Senior Pastor is DAVID DOERY (wife Sally).

On the weekend of 23-24 August, RAOG was preparing for the inaugural BREAKTHROUGH, a 21-day optional Fast to start September 1. David made two shock announcements to his flock. Both were speedy departures – guillotinings. As Richmond very rarely deviates from the formula, this was exciting in itself!! There was further opportunity to hear from the Senior Pastor after the main Services. 

 1     Youth Pastor David MOLYNEUX

David ‘Moly’ had been told to pack his bags. The last time people would see him would be on the Wednesday at IGNITE Youth. Only 4 days !! Unceremoniously quick exit !! The CEO told his flock that DM (wife Emily) had bought a house in Lilydale, outer Melbourne. This would be too far to travel to the office, the congregations were told. DM had been a well-liked Speaker and encourager, and had managed well a tendency to stutter. But RAOG is definitely NOT a democracy, so it doesn’t matter what the individual/group likes. Besides there’s Jesse Winchester (wife Amanda), a transfer from Hillsong, waiting in the wings. Did his sacking have anything to do with the coming shock? Love to be a fly on the wall …

2    AOG / ACC  National Youth Guru Pastor Michael GUGLIELMUCCI

Whatever you do, PROTECT THE BRANDS!  There’s no place for freedom of speech in AOG/ACC circles.  Nevertheless, we are able to point out that Michael Guglielmucci’s fingerprints are all over the incestuous AOG hemisphere.  The Senior P’s news was this: Michael had fallen out of the sky but please do remember that Michael is  <U>ONLY ONE MAN.</U>  The majority of aircraft is fine, so we don’t need to worry about the odd hiccup.  (i’m sure QANTAS is delighted RAOG rationalises its recent oxygen (O2) cylinder explosion, steep descent and useless O2 masks)  Michael had even forged medical records to maintain his elaborate hoax.  Pastor Michael kept everything hidden – even from his wife and parents.  This included a liking for Naughty Pictures, which lasted 16 years.   The man had gone back home to Adelaide for counselling.  (You think he needs counselling? What about all those who sung their hearts out to his emotional pathos/gimmickry.)  Thus spake Senior Pastor David Doery (in between international trips). Your Pastors know what’s best for you.  Now please close the bookand return to creche.


It’s all interesting of course but doesn’t say much for the freedom inside AOG walls!!!!  Austalians show a remarkeable tendency for forgiveness. Or stupidity!

 After a rap on the knuckles, we again made heroes out of radio ‘stars’ John Laws, Alan Jones (who says he’s now got cancer), Bruce Mansfield & Rex Hunt. Also cricketer/womaniser Shane Warne.  After Guglielmucci, one wonders how often famous people use the ‘Cancer’ tag for public sympathy.  Should we just accept whatever famous people say (a la Guglielmucci) or make our suspicions public???  Are Australian entertainers such as Kylie Minogue & Delta Goodrem taboo subjects???

It’s not possible to dabble in a secret world of Naughty Pics for 16 years without those who live with you knowing.  Michael should not have been appointed a Church leader of any desription while obsessed with such images.  The latest is that Michael has sent an email to Churches – gee, thanks Mate! – altering his Naughty Pics to those not involving minors.  Obviously a legally-recommended move as he was working so closely with  been dabbling in Naughty Pictures for a decade and a half.  We wouldn’t want to think he was exploiting minors at Planetshakers.   Whatever, if we believe his claims – and how can we believe anything from his distorted mind – then his parents and wife – at the very least – went along with his double life.

Also,  any naughty obsession doesn’t lessen the fact.   MICHAEL G IS one helluva fraud!!! 

Isn’t it strange that the small groups meeting mid-week at HILLSONG, RAOG and Edge are all called CONNECT GROUPS. What happened to individuality???