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Comment by billcnz on aogs post  “Guglielmucci Youth Pastor at CLC Perth” (Mainly a post from GroupSects “Lie Detector..”)

 

If Planetshakers is a hedonistic mammon house like Brian Houston’s Hillsong empire, then the following critique may be helpful.

Hillsong church claims to represent Christianity.
Any Christian who decides that any of their practices or teachings contradict the Bible is OBLIGATED to state an objection, as otherwise they are being negligent to the Biblical command to be a WITNESS OF THE TRUTH.

Any displeased non Christian can also raise objections, but they should use the Bible as the basis of their complaint, as Hillsong may ignore criticism from “unbelievers”.
The Bible is the authority of Christianity, not church leaders. The Bible should be used to support critique of frauds.
The Bible can be searched online eg. http://www.biblegateway.com

Hillsong can easily be challenged by verses from search words like money, riches, greed, covet, immorality, etc.

There is also a good repository of authentic documentation concerning the truth behind the facades of Hillsong at http://www.christian-witness.org (use their search facility with words “Hillsong” and “Brian Houston”).

Obviously, criticising church systems interferes with unity, but unity is worthless unless it is with truth.

The Bible encourages discernment against falsehood, as otherwise Christians would be forced to unify with corruption when it infiltrated the church.

1 Thes 5:21-22 Test everything. Hold on to the good. Avoid every kind of evil.

            Here is my critique –

At Hillsong, salvation is indirectly offered for sale through participation in a church business system supervised by business managers called pastors.

Brian Houston is following and promoting a FALSE CHRIST of hedonism (worldly indulgence).

Good things in extreme, or in the wrong situation, become evil.

1 Tim 6:10 NIV “For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.”

Brian Houston runs a gigantic church business system using a marketing ploy that appears as “Come to church, we’ve got party music, attractive girls, and money everywhere”.

Hebrews 13:5 Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, “Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you.”
1 Thes 4:3-5 It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; that each of you should learn to control his own body in a way that is holy and honorable, not in passionate lust like the heathen, who do not know God

In contrast, Brian Houston wrote a book “You need more money” and his wife Bobby “Kingdom women love sex”.

This is the seduction and worship of a false Christ who might be named “Mammon Jesus”.

Jesus Christ warned about false Christs (eg. Matt 24:24), so they can be named appropriately when they turn up.

Any unbiblical teaching about who Jesus Christ is, or what he wants us to do, creates a false Christ for people to follow.

Hillsong is built on the same premise as the Roman Catholic church institution, and others like it, that contradict the Bible:

The authority of men instead of the authority of the Bible.

The fear of men, instead of the fear of the Lord.

Prov 29:25 Fear of man will prove to be a SNARE, but whoever trusts in the LORD is KEPT SAFE.

Prov 14:26-27 He who fears the LORD has a secure fortress, and for his children it will be a refuge. The fear of the LORD is a fountain of life, turning a man from the snares of death.

Where does the Hillsong money come from?

In this foul institution, faith blessing is PURCHASED WITH MONEY – no coins, only “the folding”, and credit cards.

This is a contradiction of the Bible and a manipulation of people, with potential for tremendous social harm.

In addition to the “faith money” there is all the merchandise – clothing, CD’s, DVD’s, books, seminars, etc. as well as income from all entities that Hillsong controls.
These are all tax free where they are registered under “not for profit” status.
It would also be worth knowing if they are siphoning off any government funds via social projects they create through their church entities.

 

The large Hillsong churches may be nothing more than entertainment factories that promote materialism to distract Christians from what they should be doing.

Luke 4:5-7 shows the Devil offering Jesus Christ worldly kingdoms in exchange for worship: “The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendor, for it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. So if you worship me, it will all be yours.”

 

Hillsong must be partnering with the Devil through their love of money and the building of worldly kingdoms.

Jesus Christ kicked the money enterprises out of the temple “Take these things away! Do not make My Father’s house a house of merchandise!” (John 2:16 NKJV)

Matthew 6:24 NIV “No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money.”

Christians should discern and reject fraudulent church ministries:

2 Cor 11:13-15 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will be what their actions deserve.

Their end will be what their actions deserve!

1 Tim 6:11 But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness.

Christian ‘Elvis’ Ray Boltz takes PROZAC, makes PINK career move

Thanks to Joel for the alert Like a Funeral… Ray Boltz had been happily married 33 years with 4 children. With help from PROZAC, Ray wants to revive his career. So, one morning, he declares …
God didn’t make Adam & Eve, He created Adam & Steve!
Raymond later trots off to his local homosexual Metropolitan ‘Church’. Don’t be seduced!! There IS help for those wanting to resist this form of Political Correctness ==>  
EXODUS  INTERNATIONAL

 

KEY CHANGES
from Gospel singer Ray Boltz shares coming out journey – Washington Blade queer magazine)

Joey DiGuglielmo [Not a Planetshakers Pastor!!]
September 12, 2008

Ray Boltz wanted to do something nice.

He’d visited the mostly gay Jesus Metropolitan Community Church in Indianapolis and liked Rev. Jeff Miner, so he decided to give him a copy of his 1997 holiday recording, “A Christmas Album.”

It was one of 16 albums Boltz, 55, recorded during a nearly 20-year recording career that saw the Muncie, Ind., native become one of the better-known singer/songwriters in Contemporary Christian Music, a genre born out of the Jesus Movement of the early 1970s that made singers like Amy Grant, Sandi Patty, Michael W. Smith and Steven Curtis Chapman superstars in religious music with occasional excursions into mainstream pop culture.

Boltz, with about 4.5 million LPs, cassettes and CDs sold, never made a splash outside of Christian circles but he never really tried. With a handful of RIAA Gold-certified albums, three Dove Awards from the Gospel Music Association (GMA) and a string of 12 No. 1 hits on Christian radio, Boltz is a household name in evangelical circles. “Thank You,” (music) a sentimental song about a dream in which a Christian thanks the Sunday school teacher who led him to embrace Christ, is his signature song. It was the GMA song of the year in 1990 and has become a staple of Christian funerals. Other Boltz trademarks are “Watch the Lamb,” “The Anchor Holds” & “I Pledge Allegiance to the Lamb (Godtubevideo, location – Colosseum)”

Boltz brought the Christmas CD with him to MCC-Indianapolis on that cold, sunny December 2007 day and slipped it to see Jeff Miner on his way out with a note taped to it on which he’d jotted his e-mail address.

Ostensibly it was an innocuous thing to do, but for Boltz it was a big step. It eventually led to him opening up to Miner, one of the first times anybody outside Boltz’s circle of family and friends knew his long-kept secret: Ray Boltz is gay.

“I didn’t make a big deal of it,” Boltz says during a 90-minute phone interview from his home in Ft. Lauderdale, Fla. “But I was trembling. I’d kind of had two identities since I moved to Florida where I kind of had this other life and I’d never merged the two lives. This was the first time I was taking my old life as Ray Boltz, the gospel singer, and merging it with my new life. Emotionally it was kind of a big deal to think about that.”

Ray Boltz was tired of living a lie.

He’d gotten to a point nearly three years before where he couldn’t continue down the road his life had gone.

His 33-year marriage to ex-wife Carol was, he says, largely a happy one. It produced four children — three daughters and a son who are now between 22 and 32 — but family life and going through the motions of being straight had grown so wearying to Boltz, he was in a serious depression, had been in therapy for years, was on Prozac and other anti-depressants and had been, for a time, suicidal.

“I thought I hid it really well,” he says. “I didn’t know people could see what I was going through, the darkness and the struggle. After I came out to my family, one of my daughters said she was afraid to walk in my bedroom because she was afraid she’d find me — that I’d done something to myself. And I didn’t even know they’d picked it up.”

The Boltz family remembers Dec. 26, 2004 for two reasons: the tsunami in the Indian Ocean but also the tsunami that their husband and father unleashed when he told them what had been bothering him for so many years.

. . .

 

Further info ==>

 Ray Boltz (Wikipedia) Ray Boltz (Christian Music history)

Ray Boltz Official WebSite

Entertaining Ray Boltz video – location Botswana (Godtube)

CCM veteran Ray Boltz comes out (Sept 17 2008, Belief.net)

Another hit against us (Sept 17 2008, Russell Korets’s Weblog)

Ray Boltz to lead ‘Our Family Matters‘ gay conference (Sept 23 2008, Belief.net)

Gay Christian Movement WATCH

HAILSONG, PlanetSnakers PRODUCT RECALL

HAILSONG & PlanetSnakers Joint Announcement

Our experiment with oxygen tube technology has failed.

Although allowing freedom of movement to musicians, there are just too many holes in the overall scheme. HAILSONG and PlanetSnakers Empires find the tubing to be of little overall benefit to wearers.

There are occasional fantastic audience impacts. But in the scheme of things, the tubes tend to stretch credibility.

The plastic tubing breaks down in the wash. The equipment lacks transparency. It is quite on the nose.

We simply cannot risk damage to the lucrative entertainment genre we have struggled to create. We must think of our shareholders, namely ourselves.

The consequences of our product recall may well be a case of Weapons of Mass DVD Destruction.

Please remember that we are all sinners.

News from our Richmond AOG Spies

Richmond AOG is in Richmond in inner mELBOURNE. iT IS A MegaChurch . they see HILLSONG as Daddy and play DVDS ad nauseam in the foyer and cafe. Senior Pastor is DAVID DOERY (wife Sally).

On the weekend of 23-24 August, RAOG was preparing for the inaugural BREAKTHROUGH, a 21-day optional Fast to start September 1. David made two shock announcements to his flock. Both were speedy departures – guillotinings. As Richmond very rarely deviates from the formula, this was exciting in itself!! There was further opportunity to hear from the Senior Pastor after the main Services. 

 1     Youth Pastor David MOLYNEUX

David ‘Moly’ had been told to pack his bags. The last time people would see him would be on the Wednesday at IGNITE Youth. Only 4 days !! Unceremoniously quick exit !! The CEO told his flock that DM (wife Emily) had bought a house in Lilydale, outer Melbourne. This would be too far to travel to the office, the congregations were told. DM had been a well-liked Speaker and encourager, and had managed well a tendency to stutter. But RAOG is definitely NOT a democracy, so it doesn’t matter what the individual/group likes. Besides there’s Jesse Winchester (wife Amanda), a transfer from Hillsong, waiting in the wings. Did his sacking have anything to do with the coming shock? Love to be a fly on the wall …

2    AOG / ACC  National Youth Guru Pastor Michael GUGLIELMUCCI

Whatever you do, PROTECT THE BRANDS!  There’s no place for freedom of speech in AOG/ACC circles.  Nevertheless, we are able to point out that Michael Guglielmucci’s fingerprints are all over the incestuous AOG hemisphere.  The Senior P’s news was this: Michael had fallen out of the sky but please do remember that Michael is  <U>ONLY ONE MAN.</U>  The majority of aircraft is fine, so we don’t need to worry about the odd hiccup.  (i’m sure QANTAS is delighted RAOG rationalises its recent oxygen (O2) cylinder explosion, steep descent and useless O2 masks)  Michael had even forged medical records to maintain his elaborate hoax.  Pastor Michael kept everything hidden – even from his wife and parents.  This included a liking for Naughty Pictures, which lasted 16 years.   The man had gone back home to Adelaide for counselling.  (You think he needs counselling? What about all those who sung their hearts out to his emotional pathos/gimmickry.)  Thus spake Senior Pastor David Doery (in between international trips). Your Pastors know what’s best for you.  Now please close the bookand return to creche.

 

It’s all interesting of course but doesn’t say much for the freedom inside AOG walls!!!!  Austalians show a remarkeable tendency for forgiveness. Or stupidity!

 After a rap on the knuckles, we again made heroes out of radio ‘stars’ John Laws, Alan Jones (who says he’s now got cancer), Bruce Mansfield & Rex Hunt. Also cricketer/womaniser Shane Warne.  After Guglielmucci, one wonders how often famous people use the ‘Cancer’ tag for public sympathy.  Should we just accept whatever famous people say (a la Guglielmucci) or make our suspicions public???  Are Australian entertainers such as Kylie Minogue & Delta Goodrem taboo subjects???

It’s not possible to dabble in a secret world of Naughty Pics for 16 years without those who live with you knowing.  Michael should not have been appointed a Church leader of any desription while obsessed with such images.  The latest is that Michael has sent an email to Churches – gee, thanks Mate! – altering his Naughty Pics to those not involving minors.  Obviously a legally-recommended move as he was working so closely with  been dabbling in Naughty Pictures for a decade and a half.  We wouldn’t want to think he was exploiting minors at Planetshakers.   Whatever, if we believe his claims – and how can we believe anything from his distorted mind – then his parents and wife – at the very least – went along with his double life.

Also,  any naughty obsession doesn’t lessen the fact.   MICHAEL G IS one helluva fraud!!! 

Isn’t it strange that the small groups meeting mid-week at HILLSONG, RAOG and Edge are all called CONNECT GROUPS. What happened to individuality???